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Old 10-11-2010, 11:21 AM
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Obwan. I went to try out a couple of cameras yesterday at henrys. Ive come to conclusion that the d3100 over the T2i. It feels better in my hand and high iso preformance has a slight edge. My lenses will be the 18-55 F3.5-5.6 as my starter and then i will be getting a 55-300 tele nikon nikkor lense. For 429 thats not bad. then i was thinking. Get a macro or get a wide angle. Macro would be a nikkor 35mm 1.8 which is great in low light and then mabye something like a sigma 10-20mm or mabye a fisheye
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:32 PM
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Here is something to keep in mind when shooting with a dslr(slr). It is not always about the iso. And if you buy a slr with removeable lenses it is important to remember the aperture range is determined by the lens not the camera. Dave, that is why I said the 70-300 is not such a good lens because such a large depth range limits your aperture(light) range. Static depth range lenses can offer greater range of aperture.

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http://www.photoxels.com/tutorial_aperture.html
Yah an average non-pro 70-300mm lens you're looking at a BEST aperature (biggest) of f4 (@ 70mm). And of course, the more you telescope out the lens, the less light gets in, and f5.6 is average @ 300mm. But a cheap 75-300m is good for outdoor sports photography / wildlife photography, and when used with a tripod. But the lack of light getting in to it will require a longer exposure time...

Or you could get a nice fast f2.8 200mm lens. But that's why an f4-5.6 30-700mm lens costs $350, and an f2.8 70-200mm costs $2800
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:10 PM
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yes i worded my answer wrong in saying the 70-300 lens isn't such a good lens. it depends on what you're shooting, or which lens you can afford. all lenses are great if you can afford the quality ones.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:54 PM
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yes i worded my answer wrong in saying the 70-300 lens isn't such a good lens. it depends on what you're shooting, or which lens you can afford. all lenses are great if you can afford the quality ones.
Yep. My first telephoto was a 75-300 ($600 at the time I believe) about a decade ago. It was for my 35mm film SLR (Canon Rebel 2000). Then I got a DSLR (Canon Digital Rebel) which I used it on as well. Got tons of great shots with it.

My new camera (Canon Rebel T2i) has a nice 50-250mm but it has Image Stabilization. IF YOU CAN AFFORD A LENS WITH IMAGE STABILIZATION ** DO IT **. MASSIVELY better for long telephoto lenses as it takes out the small shaking of your hands - which close up might only move the image a centimeter or two around, but when zoomed in a hundred feet away, adds up to FEET of image shake. It really helps get MUCH clearer pictures when zoomed in using a long lens.

Lenses with Image Stabilizers are usually about 2X as much as ones without, but for anything over 200mm without a tripod, the difference it makes is WELL worth the extra cash.
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Lenses have a sweet spot for sharpness as well: http://www.digital-photography-schoo...ens-sweet-spot
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***I wanted to say a general thanks to people posting on this thread, I have learned a lot of new things and any continued discussion of the matter is VERY appreciated.***

Darksky- I talked with a few really good photographers on flickr awhile back, they all said the same thing a fast 2.8f lens is one of the best lenses for chasing. When it comes to cameras I think of the body like a PC. It depreciates in value very fast but a good lens will last forever
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I will be getting a 35 1.8 as my walk around/portrait/macro lense. The 18-55 will also serve that purpose. The 55-300 will be my zoom(tele) and i may get a wide angle if i can afford one later on. But yes itchy get the fastest glass possible in ur price range.
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