Ontario Storms Site! - Thursday, June 8, 2011

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Derecho

06-08-2011 02:34 AM

Hamilton Tornado Warning

At 125am EDT Environment Canada sent out this bulletin, doesn't specify what warning it is or where it is for.

Code:

SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN

ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA

AT 1:25 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.

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==DISCUSSION==

AT 1:20 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE

NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY OF HAMILTON.  ROTATION SHOWING ON THE

RADAR AND A SPOTTER REPORT INDICATES THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A

TORNADO WITH THIS THUNDERSTORM.  THE THUNDERSTORM IS HEADING

SOUTHWARD AT 60 KM/H.

At 148am EDT, 23 minutes later, Environment Canada corrects the warning so it gets issued, but by now the storm isn't even in Hamilton.

Code:

SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN

ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA

AT 1:48 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.

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WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHERN ONTARIO...



TORNADO WARNING FOR:

=NEW= CITY OF HAMILTON.



     AT 1:30 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE

     CITY OF HAMILTON.  A SPOTTER REPORTED A POTENTIAL TORNADO AND

     THE RADAR IS INDICATING SAME.  THE INTENSE THUNDERSTORM IS

     MOVING SOUTHWARD AT 50 KM/H.

Amazing work Environment Canada!

Derecho

06-08-2011 02:46 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning

Also, I have CHCH on, which is the only tv station in Ontario who have signed up for the new emergency alert system, and they haven't even broadcast the warning.

I tell ya, this is just getting ridiculous. Also, I'm listening to the scanner out of Hamilton and there are multiple reports of damage.

Twister

06-08-2011 02:47 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning

I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

xxCanuck

06-08-2011 02:51 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 3181)

I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

They corrected their Tornado warning when the storm isn't even in Hamilton. Should they be applauded for this?

Nagii

06-08-2011 02:52 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning

I was just speaking with someone on Yahell chat about this cell, he said he was worried his house would fall over.

Derecho

06-08-2011 02:52 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 3181)

I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

Perhaps if our officials and weather service could do things right and professional we wouldn't have to complain about them.

A tornado at night in a major metro is a very serious and life threatening situation. There is no excuse for taking 23 minutes to fix the tornado warning message in a situation like this. It wasn't even sent through the first time because no area was specified. The bulletin probably just sat on Environment Canada's computer and they took no care to even double check it was in order.

Derecho

06-08-2011 02:56 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning

Yay! Look who came late to the party!!!! The storm is over Lake Erie anyway.

RED ALERTS
June 08, 2011 2:01 AM
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO HAS ISSUED A RED ALERT

DUE TO A TORNADO WARNING IN THE CITY OF HAMILTON.
Emergency Situation: Environment Canada has issued a Tornado Warning in an area described as THE CITY OF HAMILTON

Recommended Actions: Emergency Management Ontario recommends that persons in the area described above IMMEDIATELY shelter. Everyone in this area should immediately move indoors, and away from doors and windows, preferably into a basement area if that is possible. Do not pick up family members from schools, daycares and institutions such as hospitals and nursing homes. Plans are in place to protect them. People currently outside this area are advised not to enter this area until further notice. If it is safe to do so, pets and livestock should be removed quickly from outside. Do not call 911 for information about this emergency.

This will end at 0300 Hrs, unless a further extension is requested.

DarkSky

06-08-2011 02:59 AM

Thursday, June 8, 2011

thread created - i'll move posts into here

davefootball123

06-08-2011 03:16 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

IT WAS AN INSANE STORM. I WILL SEE WHAT I GET IN THE MORNING

DarkSky

06-08-2011 03:36 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Code:

793  WUCN11 CWTO 080510

 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING

 UPDATED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA

 AT 1:10 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.

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 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR:

 =NEW= SIMCOE - DELHI - NORFOLK

 =NEW= DUNNVILLE - CALEDONIA - HALDIMAND

 =NEW= ST. CATHARINES - GRIMSBY - NORTHERN NIAGARA REGION

 =NEW= BURLINGTON - OAKVILLE

       BRANTFORD - COUNTY OF BRANT

       CITY OF HAMILTON

       HALTON HILLS - MILTON

       CALEDON

       WATERLOO - WELLINGTON.



SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING ENDED FOR:

       LISTOWEL - MILVERTON - NORTHERN PERTH COUNTY

       ORANGEVILLE - GRAND VALLEY - SOUTHERN DUFFERIN COUNTY.



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 ==DISCUSSION==

 A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN MILTON AND PARIS IS MOVING

 SOUTHWARD AT 70 KM/H.  HAIL TO 2 CM, HEAVY RAINFALL, WIND GUSTS TO

 90 KM/H ARE THE MAIN THREATS.



SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE IMMINENT OR OCCURRING IN THE AREA.

 THESE STORMS MAY PRODUCE LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS OR HEAVY

 RAINFALL.  REMEMBER THAT SOME SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN ALSO PRODUCE

 TORNADOES.



MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS AND TAKE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IF

 THREATENING WEATHER APPROACHES.



END/2/OSPC

DarkSky

06-08-2011 03:37 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Code:

509  WFCN11 CWTO 080543

 TORNADO WARNING

 ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA

 AT 1:43 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.

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 TORNADO WARNING FOR:

 =NEW= CITY OF HAMILTON.



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 ==DISCUSSION==

 AT 1:30 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE CITY

 OF HAMILTON.  A SPOTTER REPORTED A POTENTIAL TORNADO AND THE RADAR IS

 INDICATING SAME.  THE INTENSE THUNDERSTORM IS MOVING SOUTHWARD AT

 50 KM/H.



SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY PRODUCING TORNADOES ARE IMMINENT OR

 OCCURRING IN THE AREA.  LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL

 MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY THESE STORMS.



MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS AND TAKE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IF

 THREATENING WEATHER APPROACHES.



END/OSPC

Twister

06-08-2011 03:41 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxCanuck (Post 3182)

They corrected their Tornado warning when the storm isn't even in Hamilton. Should they be applauded for this?

They put out a Tornado Warning, so yes they should be applauded. If they didn't, the discussion would be about that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derecho (Post 3184)

I get it - yes a very dangerous situation, and things take time. Thank God for spotters on the ground that relayed what they saw for them to issue a warning in the first place.

My beef is that when you look at the first page of "The Truck Stop", there are multiple posts bashing EC. Heck why not make that a sticky topic and go wild! This is a weather forum, lets talk about the WEATHER. All the EC complaints have been discussed over and over and over and over etc.

I know I've grown old of it and that's why I don't visit much. I know others who feel the same way. I just want to see some cool weather photos and read some weather discussions. This site has great potential - don't ruin it.

And I'll clear the air before someone jumps down my throat - I don't work for EC. I'm just an active weather fan.

Derecho

06-08-2011 03:47 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 3190)

They put out a Tornado Warning, so yes they should be applauded. If they didn't, the discussion would be about that.

The screwed up the tornado warning at 125am and it wasn't dispatched. It wasn't until 148am they corrected it and dispatched it. By then the storm was over Haldimand County, so why didn't they extend the warning southeast then, right?

I agree sometimes we can be a little hard on Environment Canada, but that is only because they have an absolutely terrible track record with issuing late or false warnings. And those weather warnings are extremely important and must be timely and accurate for public safety. Any chaser knows that.

Fatalefemme

06-08-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

I was kinda freaked out by this warning at 1:30am. I heard a few rumbles and I thought it might be a truck or something passing by, but when I went out to investigate it, there were hundreds of strikes of lightning that I didnèt notice before because I have my windows blacked out. I was really excited, but also worried because I seen 6 watches and warnings posted on theweathernetwork.ca. It definitely was an intense storm. I actually started getting my 6 cats into the basement because a Tornado warning was posted for my area and they said that I need to get into a basement immediately. Well, I waited it out and by that time, the storm seemed to have passed. I was a little shaken up because I dont see many official tornado warnings for Hamilton. Apparently, from what I have heard, there might have been one on Hamilton Mountain. Nothing is confirmed yet I think. Anyway, I hope we get more of these. We might get some action tomorrow morning... at least I hope so! GOOOO TORNADOOO!!!!!

Derecho

06-08-2011 09:19 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

No tornadoes confirmed from this mornings storms.

Code:

UPDATED WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE

NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA

AT 7:54 PM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.



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==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION==



 THE VERY ACTIVE THUNDERSTORM-PRODUCING WEATHER PATTERN CONTINUES.

ANOTHER ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS AREAS EXTENDING

FROM SOUTHERN GEORGIAN BAY ACROSS THE KAWARTHAS TO THE OTTAWA AREA

EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. STRONG WINDS, TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS AND

INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE REPORTED IN QUITE A FEW AREAS AS THE FAST

MOVING THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS.



 ANOTHER LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS PARTS OF THE

GREATER TORONTO AREA INTO EARLY THIS EVENING. TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS,

STRONG WINDS, HAIL AND INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE

THUNDERSTORMS.



 REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AS OF

7.30 PM ARE FOUND IN THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY BELOW.





TIME                LOCATION                EVENT



1.30-2.00 PM    MUSKOKA DISTRICT           POWER LINES DOWN

               LAKE OF BAYS



1.30-2.00 PM    ACTON ISLAND/              NUMEROUS

TREES DOWN      MUSKOKA LAKES





1.30-2.00 PM    BRACEBRIDGE                POWER OUTAGE

                                          TREES DOWN



2.00-3.00 PM    MINDEN                     TREES DOWN/TREE DAMAGE

               SOUTHERN HALIBURTON

               KAWARTHAS



5.00-5.30 PM    OTTAWA                     1.2 CM DIAMETER H IL



5.00-6.00 PM    ORLEANS                    94 MM RAIN IN HALF AN HOUR



6.50 PM         BATHURST/HWY 7             GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL



7.00 PM         YONGE AND STEELES          NICKEL SIZE (2.1 CM) HAIL





 AS FAR AS LAST NIGHT'S ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IS CONCERNED,

AN ENVIRONMENT CANADA STORM DAMAGE INVESTIGATION TEAM HAS DETERMINED

THAT THE DAMAGE IN THE ANCASTER AND GUELPH AREAS AS ALL DUE TO

STRONG STRAIGHT LINE WINDS CAUSED BY DOWNBURSTS.



 THERE WERE ALSO REPORTS OF DOWNED TREES AND BUILDING DAMAGE IN

AREAS NEAR LAKE HURON AS A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS ROARED ASHORE LATE

LAST EVENING. A SEPARATE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM SUBSEQUENTLY FORMED

NORTHWEST OF FERGUS AND THEN BROUGHT DAMAGING WINDS ACROSS

WELLINGTON COUNTY INCLUDING THE CITY OF GUELPH INTO PARTS OF

HAMILTON.



 THERE WERE ALSO FREQUENT REPORTS OF INTENSE LIGHTNING AND

TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS. AT ONE POINT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WAS

GENERATING OVER 1700 LIGHTNING STRIKES IN ONE HOUR AS IT APPROACHED

HAMILTON OVERNIGHT.



 FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY

ENVIRONMENT CANADA FROM LAST NIGHT'S ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS.





TIME                LOCATION                EVENT



07-JUN-2011

10.00-10.30 PM      UNDERWOOD           TREES DOWN. DAMAGE TO BARNS.

                   (NE KINCARDINE)



10.30-11.00 PM      KINCARDINE          TREES DOWN.





10-30-11.00 PM      N WALKERTON         TREES DOWN.



10.30-11.00 PM      ROCKFORD            TREES DOWN

                  (S OWEN SOUND)



11.00 PM            RIPLEY              GARAGE BUILDING LIFTED

                   (S KINCARDINE)      AND DESTROYED.

                                       TREES DOWN



08-JUN-2011

12.00-12.30 AM      FERGUS              QUARTER SIZED HAIL



12.30-1.00 AM       GUELPH              NUMEROUS TREES AND TREE

                                       LIMBS DOWN



1.00-1.30 AM        ANCASTER            TREES DOWN ON TOP OF THE

                                       ESCARPMENT.





THIS WEATHER SUMMARY CONTAINS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND MAY NOT

CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL OR FINAL REPORT.



END/OSPC

obwan

06-08-2011 10:07 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

thanks for the summary report derecho, i'm sure theres more trees down across the countryside if you follow the path of the storm.

Nagii

06-09-2011 03:11 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

St.Kitts got the side end of it, nothing major really, some thunder, alittle rain, some lightning. But those two cells that made that tornado warning, they stayed together all the way into buffalo, I was amazed, especially after going over Lake Erie.

gilster

06-09-2011 11:07 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Good morning folks. New here to the site but been lurking for a long time.

As the storm blew right through our neck of the woods early Wednesday morning I was wondering if a video of the radar existed showing the system come through Guelph?

Thanks!

gilster

06-09-2011 11:14 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

1 Attachment(s)

This is a pic of the next morning about 6am.

DarkSky

06-09-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

1 Attachment(s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilster (Post 3204)

I have a few radar images from when it was approaching and going through Niagara. Here's a radar loop below. I had to attach it because the animation doesn't work when I use a 3rd party image host. This was at about 2:15am :

DarkSky

06-09-2011 12:16 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Other radar images :

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8704/110608tops.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5...80209radar.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6...80212radar.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5...0225radial.jpg

gilster

06-09-2011 12:40 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Cool thanks!

I wish it had of been daylight for that storm even though it practically was with all the lightning.

WrongWay

06-09-2011 01:16 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Not sure I should add Georgina June 8 storm to this thread
We got plastered with a storm last evening around 6:30pm,
Some news articles about it.
http://www.yorkregion.com/news/artic...s-up-911-lines
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/10...orst-i-ve-seen

I was standing at a gas pump when the sky turned that odd shade of green and it let go, high winds, heavy rain, things flying around, and hail.
Lot of trees and some power polls down all over town, report of at least one house losing its roof.
Many people with no power since 6:30 last night and they were still out this morning.

Got to find someplace to get me a window mount for my camcorder!

DarkSky

06-09-2011 03:45 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongWay (Post 3210)

Not sure I should add Georgina June 8 storm to this thread

Yep! Anything in Ontario to do with a specific storm day can go into a thread if it's already created for that day.

Quote:

We got plastered with a storm last evening around 6:30pm,
Some news articles about it.
http://www.yorkregion.com/news/artic...s-up-911-lines
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/10...orst-i-ve-seen

Thanks for posting the links and personal summary!!

WrongWay

06-09-2011 03:51 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

Just found this hydro-one Ontario zoomable map that shows the storms damage corridor to the power grid system (110000 houses out)
http://www.hydroone.com/StormCenter/

I think it is regularly updated so as things get patched up they may disappear off the map

Hydro-one storm damage news release
http://www.hydroone.com/OurCompany/M...pdate_10AM.pdf

DarkSky

06-09-2011 11:14 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011

June 8 damage summary :

Code:

301 

 AWCN11 CWTO 092325

 WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE

 NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA

 AT 7:25 PM EDT THURSDAY 9 JUNE 2011.



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 ==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION==

 AFTER RECEIVING NUMEROUS REPORTS OF DAMAGE FROM A SERIES OF

 THUNDERSTORMS THAT IMPACTED VARIOUS PARTS OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO ON

 WEDNESDAY JUNE 8TH, AN ENVIRONMENT CANADA DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM WAS

 SENT TO TWO OF THE HARDEST HIT AREAS TO TRY AND DETERMINE THE CAUSE

 OF THE DAMAGE.  THE DAMAGE SURVERY TEAM VISITED THE COBOCONK AREA TO

 THE EAST OF LAKE SIMCOE IN THE KAWARTHA LAKES REGION, AND MINDEN

 HILLS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF HALIBURTON COUNTY.  TWO POWERFUL LINES

 OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVED THROUGH THESE AREA ON WEDNESDAY.  THE FIRST

 LINE OCCURRED BETWEEN 2 PM AND 3 PM WITH THE SECOND OCCURRING

 BETWEEN 7 PM AND 8 PM.  IT APPEARS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DAMAGE

 IN THE COBOCONK AND MINDEN HILLS AREAS OCCURRED WITH THE FIRST LINE

 OF ACTIVITY.  ALL OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS SEEN WAS CONSISTENT WITH

 DOWNBURTS OR DAMAGING WINDS AND NOT TORNADOES.  SOME OF THE DAMAGE

 WAS CONSISTENT WITH PEAK WINDS IN THE ORDER OF 120 TO 140 KM/H.



THE SECOND LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ALSO AFFECTED PARTS OF THE

 GREATER TORONTO AREA EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING.  TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS,

 STRONG WINDS, HAIL AND INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE ASSOCIATED.



DUE TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF AREAS ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO THAT

 EXPERIENCED SOME FORM OF DAMAGE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, ENVIRONMENT

 CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE OTHER SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF

 DAMAGE AND UPDATE THIS STATEMENT ACCORDINGLY.



REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER THAT OCCURRED ON WEDNESDAY  RECEIVED BY

 ENVIRONMENT CANADA AS OF

 7 PM THURSDAY ARE FOUND IN THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY BELOW.





TIME                LOCATION                EVENT



1.30-2.00 PM    MUSKOKA DISTRICT           POWER LINES DOWN

                 LAKE OF BAYS



1.30-2.00 PM    ACTON ISLAND/              NUMEROUS TREES DOWN

                 MUSKOKA LAKES





1.30-2.00 PM    BRACEBRIDGE                POWER OUTAGE

                                            TREES DOWN



2.00-3.00 PM    MINDEN                     TREES DOWN/TREE DAMAGE

                 SOUTHERN HALIBURTON

                 KAWARTHAS



5.00-5.30 PM    OTTAWA                     1.2 CM DIAMETER HAIL



5.00-6.00 PM    ORLEANS                    94 MM RAIN IN HALF AN

 HOUR



6.50 PM         TORONTO                    GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL

                 (BATHURST/HWY 7)



7.00 PM         TORONTO                    NICKEL SIZE (2.1CM) HAIL

                 (YONGE AND STEELES)





7.10 PM         BOWMANVILLE                3.5 CM DIAMETER  HAIL





THIS WEATHER SUMMARY CONTAINS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND MAY NOT

 CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL OR FINAL REPORT.



END/OSPC

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