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Derecho 06-08-2011 02:34 AM

Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
At 125am EDT Environment Canada sent out this bulletin, doesn't specify what warning it is or where it is for.

Code:

SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN
ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 1:25 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
==DISCUSSION==
AT 1:20 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE
NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY OF HAMILTON.  ROTATION SHOWING ON THE
RADAR AND A SPOTTER REPORT INDICATES THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A
TORNADO WITH THIS THUNDERSTORM.  THE THUNDERSTORM IS HEADING
SOUTHWARD AT 60 KM/H.

At 148am EDT, 23 minutes later, Environment Canada corrects the warning so it gets issued, but by now the storm isn't even in Hamilton.

Code:

SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN
ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 1:48 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHERN ONTARIO...

TORNADO WARNING FOR:
=NEW= CITY OF HAMILTON.

    AT 1:30 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE
    CITY OF HAMILTON.  A SPOTTER REPORTED A POTENTIAL TORNADO AND
    THE RADAR IS INDICATING SAME.  THE INTENSE THUNDERSTORM IS
    MOVING SOUTHWARD AT 50 KM/H.

Amazing work Environment Canada!

Derecho 06-08-2011 02:46 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
Also, I have CHCH on, which is the only tv station in Ontario who have signed up for the new emergency alert system, and they haven't even broadcast the warning.

I tell ya, this is just getting ridiculous. Also, I'm listening to the scanner out of Hamilton and there are multiple reports of damage.

Twister 06-08-2011 02:47 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

xxCanuck 06-08-2011 02:51 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 3181)
I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

They corrected their Tornado warning when the storm isn't even in Hamilton. Should they be applauded for this?

Nagii 06-08-2011 02:52 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
I was just speaking with someone on Yahell chat about this cell, he said he was worried his house would fall over.

Derecho 06-08-2011 02:52 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 3181)
I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

Perhaps if our officials and weather service could do things right and professional we wouldn't have to complain about them.

A tornado at night in a major metro is a very serious and life threatening situation. There is no excuse for taking 23 minutes to fix the tornado warning message in a situation like this. It wasn't even sent through the first time because no area was specified. The bulletin probably just sat on Environment Canada's computer and they took no care to even double check it was in order.

Derecho 06-08-2011 02:56 AM

Re: Hamilton Tornado Warning
 
Yay! Look who came late to the party!!!! The storm is over Lake Erie anyway.

RED ALERTS
June 08, 2011 2:01 AM
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO HAS ISSUED A RED ALERT

DUE TO A TORNADO WARNING IN THE CITY OF HAMILTON.
Emergency Situation: Environment Canada has issued a Tornado Warning in an area described as THE CITY OF HAMILTON

Recommended Actions: Emergency Management Ontario recommends that persons in the area described above IMMEDIATELY shelter. Everyone in this area should immediately move indoors, and away from doors and windows, preferably into a basement area if that is possible. Do not pick up family members from schools, daycares and institutions such as hospitals and nursing homes. Plans are in place to protect them. People currently outside this area are advised not to enter this area until further notice. If it is safe to do so, pets and livestock should be removed quickly from outside. Do not call 911 for information about this emergency.

This will end at 0300 Hrs, unless a further extension is requested.

DarkSky 06-08-2011 02:59 AM

Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
thread created - i'll move posts into here

davefootball123 06-08-2011 03:16 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
IT WAS AN INSANE STORM. I WILL SEE WHAT I GET IN THE MORNING

DarkSky 06-08-2011 03:36 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Code:

793  WUCN11 CWTO 080510
 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
 UPDATED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
 AT 1:10 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR:
 =NEW= SIMCOE - DELHI - NORFOLK
 =NEW= DUNNVILLE - CALEDONIA - HALDIMAND
 =NEW= ST. CATHARINES - GRIMSBY - NORTHERN NIAGARA REGION
 =NEW= BURLINGTON - OAKVILLE
      BRANTFORD - COUNTY OF BRANT
      CITY OF HAMILTON
      HALTON HILLS - MILTON
      CALEDON
      WATERLOO - WELLINGTON.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING ENDED FOR:
      LISTOWEL - MILVERTON - NORTHERN PERTH COUNTY
      ORANGEVILLE - GRAND VALLEY - SOUTHERN DUFFERIN COUNTY.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
 ==DISCUSSION==
 A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN MILTON AND PARIS IS MOVING
 SOUTHWARD AT 70 KM/H.  HAIL TO 2 CM, HEAVY RAINFALL, WIND GUSTS TO
 90 KM/H ARE THE MAIN THREATS.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE IMMINENT OR OCCURRING IN THE AREA.
 THESE STORMS MAY PRODUCE LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS OR HEAVY
 RAINFALL.  REMEMBER THAT SOME SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN ALSO PRODUCE
 TORNADOES.

MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS AND TAKE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IF
 THREATENING WEATHER APPROACHES.

END/2/OSPC


DarkSky 06-08-2011 03:37 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Code:

509  WFCN11 CWTO 080543
 TORNADO WARNING
 ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
 AT 1:43 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 TORNADO WARNING FOR:
 =NEW= CITY OF HAMILTON.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
 ==DISCUSSION==
 AT 1:30 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE CITY
 OF HAMILTON.  A SPOTTER REPORTED A POTENTIAL TORNADO AND THE RADAR IS
 INDICATING SAME.  THE INTENSE THUNDERSTORM IS MOVING SOUTHWARD AT
 50 KM/H.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY PRODUCING TORNADOES ARE IMMINENT OR
 OCCURRING IN THE AREA.  LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL
 MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY THESE STORMS.

MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS AND TAKE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IF
 THREATENING WEATHER APPROACHES.

END/OSPC


Twister 06-08-2011 03:41 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xxCanuck (Post 3182)
They corrected their Tornado warning when the storm isn't even in Hamilton. Should they be applauded for this?

They put out a Tornado Warning, so yes they should be applauded. If they didn't, the discussion would be about that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Derecho (Post 3184)
Perhaps if our officials and weather service could do things right and professional we wouldn't have to complain about them.

A tornado at night in a major metro is a very serious and life threatening situation. There is no excuse for taking 23 minutes to fix the tornado warning message in a situation like this. It wasn't even sent through the first time because no area was specified. The bulletin probably just sat on Environment Canada's computer and they took no care to even double check it was in order.

I get it - yes a very dangerous situation, and things take time. Thank God for spotters on the ground that relayed what they saw for them to issue a warning in the first place.

My beef is that when you look at the first page of "The Truck Stop", there are multiple posts bashing EC. Heck why not make that a sticky topic and go wild! This is a weather forum, lets talk about the WEATHER. All the EC complaints have been discussed over and over and over and over etc.

I know I've grown old of it and that's why I don't visit much. I know others who feel the same way. I just want to see some cool weather photos and read some weather discussions. This site has great potential - don't ruin it.

And I'll clear the air before someone jumps down my throat - I don't work for EC. I'm just an active weather fan.

Derecho 06-08-2011 03:47 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 3190)
They put out a Tornado Warning, so yes they should be applauded. If they didn't, the discussion would be about that.

The screwed up the tornado warning at 125am and it wasn't dispatched. It wasn't until 148am they corrected it and dispatched it. By then the storm was over Haldimand County, so why didn't they extend the warning southeast then, right?

I agree sometimes we can be a little hard on Environment Canada, but that is only because they have an absolutely terrible track record with issuing late or false warnings. And those weather warnings are extremely important and must be timely and accurate for public safety. Any chaser knows that.

Fatalefemme 06-08-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
I was kinda freaked out by this warning at 1:30am. I heard a few rumbles and I thought it might be a truck or something passing by, but when I went out to investigate it, there were hundreds of strikes of lightning that I didnčt notice before because I have my windows blacked out. I was really excited, but also worried because I seen 6 watches and warnings posted on theweathernetwork.ca. It definitely was an intense storm. I actually started getting my 6 cats into the basement because a Tornado warning was posted for my area and they said that I need to get into a basement immediately. Well, I waited it out and by that time, the storm seemed to have passed. I was a little shaken up because I dont see many official tornado warnings for Hamilton. Apparently, from what I have heard, there might have been one on Hamilton Mountain. Nothing is confirmed yet I think. Anyway, I hope we get more of these. We might get some action tomorrow morning... at least I hope so! GOOOO TORNADOOO!!!!!

Derecho 06-08-2011 09:19 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
No tornadoes confirmed from this mornings storms.


Code:

UPDATED WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE
NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 7:54 PM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.

-------------------------------------------------------------
==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION==

 THE VERY ACTIVE THUNDERSTORM-PRODUCING WEATHER PATTERN CONTINUES.
ANOTHER ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS AREAS EXTENDING
FROM SOUTHERN GEORGIAN BAY ACROSS THE KAWARTHAS TO THE OTTAWA AREA
EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. STRONG WINDS, TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS AND
INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE REPORTED IN QUITE A FEW AREAS AS THE FAST
MOVING THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS.

 ANOTHER LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS PARTS OF THE
GREATER TORONTO AREA INTO EARLY THIS EVENING. TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS,
STRONG WINDS, HAIL AND INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE
THUNDERSTORMS.

 REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AS OF
7.30 PM ARE FOUND IN THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY BELOW.


TIME                LOCATION                EVENT

1.30-2.00 PM    MUSKOKA DISTRICT          POWER LINES DOWN
              LAKE OF BAYS

1.30-2.00 PM    ACTON ISLAND/              NUMEROUS
TREES DOWN      MUSKOKA LAKES


1.30-2.00 PM    BRACEBRIDGE                POWER OUTAGE
                                          TREES DOWN

2.00-3.00 PM    MINDEN                    TREES DOWN/TREE DAMAGE
              SOUTHERN HALIBURTON
              KAWARTHAS

5.00-5.30 PM    OTTAWA                    1.2 CM DIAMETER H IL

5.00-6.00 PM    ORLEANS                    94 MM RAIN IN HALF AN HOUR

6.50 PM        BATHURST/HWY 7            GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL

7.00 PM        YONGE AND STEELES          NICKEL SIZE (2.1 CM) HAIL


 AS FAR AS LAST NIGHT'S ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IS CONCERNED,
AN ENVIRONMENT CANADA STORM DAMAGE INVESTIGATION TEAM HAS DETERMINED
THAT THE DAMAGE IN THE ANCASTER AND GUELPH AREAS AS ALL DUE TO
STRONG STRAIGHT LINE WINDS CAUSED BY DOWNBURSTS.

 THERE WERE ALSO REPORTS OF DOWNED TREES AND BUILDING DAMAGE IN
AREAS NEAR LAKE HURON AS A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS ROARED ASHORE LATE
LAST EVENING. A SEPARATE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM SUBSEQUENTLY FORMED
NORTHWEST OF FERGUS AND THEN BROUGHT DAMAGING WINDS ACROSS
WELLINGTON COUNTY INCLUDING THE CITY OF GUELPH INTO PARTS OF
HAMILTON.

 THERE WERE ALSO FREQUENT REPORTS OF INTENSE LIGHTNING AND
TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS. AT ONE POINT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WAS
GENERATING OVER 1700 LIGHTNING STRIKES IN ONE HOUR AS IT APPROACHED
HAMILTON OVERNIGHT.

 FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY
ENVIRONMENT CANADA FROM LAST NIGHT'S ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS.


TIME                LOCATION                EVENT

07-JUN-2011
10.00-10.30 PM      UNDERWOOD          TREES DOWN. DAMAGE TO BARNS.
                  (NE KINCARDINE)

10.30-11.00 PM      KINCARDINE          TREES DOWN.


10-30-11.00 PM      N WALKERTON        TREES DOWN.

10.30-11.00 PM      ROCKFORD            TREES DOWN
                  (S OWEN SOUND)

11.00 PM            RIPLEY              GARAGE BUILDING LIFTED
                  (S KINCARDINE)      AND DESTROYED.
                                      TREES DOWN

08-JUN-2011
12.00-12.30 AM      FERGUS              QUARTER SIZED HAIL

12.30-1.00 AM      GUELPH              NUMEROUS TREES AND TREE
                                      LIMBS DOWN

1.00-1.30 AM        ANCASTER            TREES DOWN ON TOP OF THE
                                      ESCARPMENT.


THIS WEATHER SUMMARY CONTAINS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND MAY NOT
CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL OR FINAL REPORT.

END/OSPC


obwan 06-08-2011 10:07 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
thanks for the summary report derecho, i'm sure theres more trees down across the countryside if you follow the path of the storm.

Nagii 06-09-2011 03:11 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
St.Kitts got the side end of it, nothing major really, some thunder, alittle rain, some lightning. But those two cells that made that tornado warning, they stayed together all the way into buffalo, I was amazed, especially after going over Lake Erie.

gilster 06-09-2011 11:07 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Good morning folks. New here to the site but been lurking for a long time.

As the storm blew right through our neck of the woods early Wednesday morning I was wondering if a video of the radar existed showing the system come through Guelph?

Thanks!

gilster 06-09-2011 11:14 AM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
1 Attachment(s)
This is a pic of the next morning about 6am.

DarkSky 06-09-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by gilster (Post 3204)
Good morning folks. New here to the site but been lurking for a long time.

As the storm blew right through our neck of the woods early Wednesday morning I was wondering if a video of the radar existed showing the system come through Guelph?

Thanks!

I have a few radar images from when it was approaching and going through Niagara. Here's a radar loop below. I had to attach it because the animation doesn't work when I use a 3rd party image host. This was at about 2:15am :

DarkSky 06-09-2011 12:16 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Other radar images :

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8704/110608tops.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5...80209radar.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6...80212radar.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5...0225radial.jpg

gilster 06-09-2011 12:40 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Cool thanks!

I wish it had of been daylight for that storm even though it practically was with all the lightning.

WrongWay 06-09-2011 01:16 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Not sure I should add Georgina June 8 storm to this thread
We got plastered with a storm last evening around 6:30pm,
Some news articles about it.
http://www.yorkregion.com/news/artic...s-up-911-lines
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/10...orst-i-ve-seen

I was standing at a gas pump when the sky turned that odd shade of green and it let go, high winds, heavy rain, things flying around, and hail.
Lot of trees and some power polls down all over town, report of at least one house losing its roof.
Many people with no power since 6:30 last night and they were still out this morning.

Got to find someplace to get me a window mount for my camcorder!

DarkSky 06-09-2011 03:45 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongWay (Post 3210)
Not sure I should add Georgina June 8 storm to this thread

Yep! Anything in Ontario to do with a specific storm day can go into a thread if it's already created for that day.

Quote:

We got plastered with a storm last evening around 6:30pm,
Some news articles about it.
http://www.yorkregion.com/news/artic...s-up-911-lines
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/10...orst-i-ve-seen
Thanks for posting the links and personal summary!!

WrongWay 06-09-2011 03:51 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
Just found this hydro-one Ontario zoomable map that shows the storms damage corridor to the power grid system (110000 houses out)
http://www.hydroone.com/StormCenter/

I think it is regularly updated so as things get patched up they may disappear off the map

Hydro-one storm damage news release
http://www.hydroone.com/OurCompany/M...pdate_10AM.pdf

DarkSky 06-09-2011 11:14 PM

Re: Thursday, June 8, 2011
 
June 8 damage summary :

Code:

301
 AWCN11 CWTO 092325
 WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE
 NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
 AT 7:25 PM EDT THURSDAY 9 JUNE 2011.

-------------------------------------------------------------
 ==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION==
 AFTER RECEIVING NUMEROUS REPORTS OF DAMAGE FROM A SERIES OF
 THUNDERSTORMS THAT IMPACTED VARIOUS PARTS OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO ON
 WEDNESDAY JUNE 8TH, AN ENVIRONMENT CANADA DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM WAS
 SENT TO TWO OF THE HARDEST HIT AREAS TO TRY AND DETERMINE THE CAUSE
 OF THE DAMAGE.  THE DAMAGE SURVERY TEAM VISITED THE COBOCONK AREA TO
 THE EAST OF LAKE SIMCOE IN THE KAWARTHA LAKES REGION, AND MINDEN
 HILLS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF HALIBURTON COUNTY.  TWO POWERFUL LINES
 OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVED THROUGH THESE AREA ON WEDNESDAY.  THE FIRST
 LINE OCCURRED BETWEEN 2 PM AND 3 PM WITH THE SECOND OCCURRING
 BETWEEN 7 PM AND 8 PM.  IT APPEARS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DAMAGE
 IN THE COBOCONK AND MINDEN HILLS AREAS OCCURRED WITH THE FIRST LINE
 OF ACTIVITY.  ALL OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS SEEN WAS CONSISTENT WITH
 DOWNBURTS OR DAMAGING WINDS AND NOT TORNADOES.  SOME OF THE DAMAGE
 WAS CONSISTENT WITH PEAK WINDS IN THE ORDER OF 120 TO 140 KM/H.

THE SECOND LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ALSO AFFECTED PARTS OF THE
 GREATER TORONTO AREA EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING.  TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS,
 STRONG WINDS, HAIL AND INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE ASSOCIATED.

DUE TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF AREAS ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO THAT
 EXPERIENCED SOME FORM OF DAMAGE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, ENVIRONMENT
 CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE OTHER SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF
 DAMAGE AND UPDATE THIS STATEMENT ACCORDINGLY.

REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER THAT OCCURRED ON WEDNESDAY  RECEIVED BY
 ENVIRONMENT CANADA AS OF
 7 PM THURSDAY ARE FOUND IN THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY BELOW.


TIME                LOCATION                EVENT

1.30-2.00 PM    MUSKOKA DISTRICT          POWER LINES DOWN
                LAKE OF BAYS

1.30-2.00 PM    ACTON ISLAND/              NUMEROUS TREES DOWN
                MUSKOKA LAKES


1.30-2.00 PM    BRACEBRIDGE                POWER OUTAGE
                                            TREES DOWN

2.00-3.00 PM    MINDEN                    TREES DOWN/TREE DAMAGE
                SOUTHERN HALIBURTON
                KAWARTHAS

5.00-5.30 PM    OTTAWA                    1.2 CM DIAMETER HAIL

5.00-6.00 PM    ORLEANS                    94 MM RAIN IN HALF AN
 HOUR

6.50 PM        TORONTO                    GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL
                (BATHURST/HWY 7)

7.00 PM        TORONTO                    NICKEL SIZE (2.1CM) HAIL
                (YONGE AND STEELES)


7.10 PM        BOWMANVILLE                3.5 CM DIAMETER  HAIL


THIS WEATHER SUMMARY CONTAINS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND MAY NOT
 CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL OR FINAL REPORT.

END/OSPC



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